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23/04/2009

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Rav Hit Squad

Nice article Amar.

Southall needs a boost

Andrew

Sorry Amir, I just can't agree with your description of Southall.

You call it "diverse" but then go on to descibe a minority Indian monoculture that maintains itself as if the rest of London barely exists. Half of the local population are indigenous British. How do they contribute towards this "diversity" that you speak of?

I remember an insular and frankly xenophobic Southall where it was barely possible to make oneself understood because many people hardly spoke English; where arriving with my South Indian (then) girlfriend attracted a lot of hostility from local young men, who felt she should not be with a white man. Amazingly they felt that she was not a "real" Indian, because she was not from Punjab - unlike themselves who all spoke in cod Indian accents - despite being Londoners born and bred.

Going back ten years later with the same lady, who is now my wife and her aunt very little had changed; blanking, rudeness and the clear message - you are not welcome.

I have travelled all over India and although I have had a few disagreeable experiences, I have never felt the raw hostility we encountered in Southall.

Ethnic areas in great cities like New York work because the locals are basically integrated into the wider world. This allows them to move easily from one to the other and to welcome outsiders into their enclave. This is not the case in Southall.

The people of Southall are basically hicks. Villagers living isolated from the mainstream, like frogs at the bottom of a well, maintaining customs that are either dying or changing back at their place of origin. They will never be capable of turning the place into a tourist attraction, until they themselves change.

Sorry to speak the truth but it needs saying.

Maya

Amar

The last time I visited Southall there were more Somalians there than Indians. Maybe this will in time become re-branded as Somalthall! I partly agree with Andrew's comments too. Although I am Indian, and Punjabi speaking at that, my experience in Southall is always tainted by the rudeness of the shop keepers, and the local people of Southall who have no awareness of social propriety or indeed good old fashioned manners. Pushing and shoving, spitting and queue jumping are all very much part of the culture of Southall. Wembley by contrast offers a different type of Indian experience, and maybe they seem to be more attuned to customer service.

Srinivas

I do agree with Andrew's post. I am an IT professional from South India and I speak three India languages and NOT Punjabi. That’s must if you want to visit Southall. They treat you differently because of my conversation in English and my darker skin. I was shocked at first but now I got used it. Two of my close friends in England are English! I have apologized to my friends on behalf of these illiterate shop owners. They have more interest in my culture and India in general than these guys from Southall. These guys from Southall assume that every India looking men will speak Punjabi and drink Lassi and enjoy noisy Bhangra. Luckily I will be going back to India soon so I don’t have to worry about this dump.

Atma Singh

Southall is brilliant. Thanks Amar.
I can't wait for the Cross-rail to start going there!


Tina Edward Gunawardhana

It is such a shame that the positiveness of Southall is overshadowed by its MP Virendra Sharma who much to the disgust of some constituents has aligned himself with the supporters of the Tamil Tigers. Some areas of Southall are like enclaves of the Tamil Tigers. Perhaps Sharma has forgotten that the Tamil Tigers killed Rajiv Gandhi the Prime Minister of India where a majority of his constituents come from. Hopefully at the next election the electorate will take note of it.

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